[Robo-Advisors]: I Put RM1,000 Each into StashAway & Wahed Invest

In this article, I will share my experience in investing my own money into the two most talked about Robo-Advisor brands of 2020: Stashaway & Wahed Invest.

Disclaimer: This is MY EXPERIENCE that I’m sharing. Everyone’s portfolio and results will be unique.

Key Difference Between Wahed Invest & StashAway:

This is the result for MY UNIQUE portfolio, (everyone’s portfolio will be unique and different):

Financial AssetsStashawayWahed Invest
Gold Assets✔️✔️
100% Shariah Compliant✔️
Very diversified portfolio✔️
Emerging markets✔️
Mostly US stocks✔️
Invest in Malaysian stocks✔️
Can withdraw money easily?✔️✔️

Investing Problems Millennials Face

Some Millennials and Gen-Z don’t know where to start when it comes to investing money. We are sandwiched between outdated advice from Baby Boomers and the uncertain, changing future.

You can invest in property, stocks, mutual funds, and buying gold, to name a few. Between juggling work, family, and maintaining a social life, who has time to research and figure all this out?

Traditional mutual funds are so old-fashion, and the financial report requires a degree in advanced finance to understand. This is why robo-advisors catch the interest of millennials:

What is a Robo Advisor?

You can think of a Robo Advisor as a digital mutual fund manager. Instead of relying on a human fund manager to pick out winning investments, the fund manager is now replaced with AI technology to pick out investments using 100% data, and 0% emotions.

The AI robot will spread your money around according to your financial goals, risk profile, and the best opportunities at that time. They typically work best in medium to long term time frame (min 5 years).

Another classic case of AI technology slowly phasing out yet another human job.

Who is the Robo-Advisor For?

Robo-Advisors make a lot of sense for Millennials like me, because:

  • I already have a bit of saving in Fixed Deposit and looking to invest in something a little riskier.
  • I tried buying individual stocks, but I always lose money, plus the fees are expensive!
  • I have a medium to high-risk tolerance, and I can stomach the market fluctuations.
  • I couldn’t be bothered to research and pick my own investments.
  • I trust a computer to make decisions using data more than I would a human managing my money.
  • I can’t allocate the same amount of money each month for investment in this because I have a lot of other commitments.

Who is the Robo-Advisor Not For?

If you’re conservative, it will make more sense to place your money in fixed deposits or buy gold.

If you enjoy doing financial research and take control of your money, you might be better off purchasing your investments manually.

Robo-Advisor Contenders

From my observations, the two most popular Robo-Advisors used by Malaysians currently are:

StashAway - Wikipedia
Stashaway –
From Singapore
Simple Ringgit: Wahed Invest - First Impression Review
Wahed Invest – From the USA

Both diversify your money around the world. The key difference of Wahed Invest is that they will only put your money in Shariah compliant investments.

Simply put, with Wahed Invest, your money will not be involved in these non-Islamic businesses:

  1. Excess debt
  2. Tobacco
  3. Alcohol
  4. Firearms
  1. Gambling
  2. Adult Entertainment
  3. Impure Food stock
  4. Usurious Institutions
From Wahed Invest’s website.

Some people might find the industries above against their moral values anyway, so you don’t necessarily have to be a Muslim to use Wahed invest.

Unlike Wahed Invests, StashAway is free to place your money in both Shariah-compliant and non-Shariah compliant investments.

Putting RM 1,000 in each Robo-Advisors

Me transferring RM 1,000 to each Robo-Advisor

The best and fastest way to learn about both of these Robo-Advisors it to jump right in. On the 7th of June, 2020, I deposited RM 1,000 of my own money into StashAway & Wahed Invest each in their 2nd most ‘aggressive portfolio.’

I let them run for a few weeks before I wrote this post. Here’s what I found out:

How and Where is My Money Diversified?

To test these two Robo-Advisors fairly, I set both at the 2nd highest risk profile.

Each Robo-advisors will use different algorithms and profiles depending on your risk input & your unique financial situation (age, income, savings, etc.)

Note: Your portfolio might be different because it will depend on the questions they ask you during setup.

Stashaway’s Riskiest Portfolio

After I deposited my first RM 1,000, the value went straight down to MYR 978. Mind you that the world is still battling the effects of the Corona Virus.

The price fluctuates up and down for the past three weeks and my portfolio value 3 weeks later is at RM 1,000.17, a 17 cent gain:

Stashaway’s Riskiest Index of 22%

Key Takeaway for my Stashaway’s Riskiest Portfolio:

  • 44% in International Stocks (mostly in emerging markets and in the UK). This is the riskiest investment in my portfolio.
  • 34% in Commodities (Gold). This is possibly the safest investment.
  • About 24% of my money is in the USA.
  • About 22% in Europe, mostly in the UK.
  • About 12% in Asia, mostly in China.
  • None of my money is in Malaysia.

Below is the detail breakdown asset allocation by category:

Stashaway’s Riskiest profile target asset allocations

Here’s the geographical breakdown of my money with Stashaway:

  • North America, being the USA.
  • Europe being the majority in the UK.
  • Asia being mostly in China.
  • There are no Malaysian assets in this portfolio.

Below is the portfolio projections in the next 5 years if I did nothing else to this portfolio:

So far, so good. Now let’s take a look at how Wahed Invest performed during the same period:

Wahed Invest’s Riskiest Portfolio

In Wahed invest, the 2nd riskiest portfolio is named ‘Aggressive‘. After 3 weeks, my portfolio value also went up and down. The lowest point was RM 979.39. Today, its value is at RM993.55, which is an RM6.45 loss:

My Wahed Invest’s Aggressive Profile Key Takeaway:

Here’s my portfolio breakdown with Wahed Invest, most of my money will be in the US and Malaysia:

  • 45% of my money will be in Shariah compliant US stocks.
  • 25% will be in Sukuk (Islamic bonds).
  • 17.5% will be in Malaysian stocks.
  • 10% in gold.

Robo-Advisor Fees

Robo AdvisorWahed InvestStashaway
Annual Fees per year < RM 50k0.99%0.8%
Annual Fee for RM 10k invested RM 99RM 80

The fees generally get cheaper the more you invest with each platform.

Personally, the management fee price differences are negligible, and it shouldn’t be your main criteria to decide between the two Robo-Advisors.

Robo-Advisor Pros

  • The management fee of less than 1% of your portfolio value is incredibly cheap compared to brokerage fees if you’d pick individual stocks yourself.
  • Comparing to traditional Mutual Funds, the Robo-Advisor fees are cheaper and transparent. (I don’t invest in them), but read this article. It’s so complicated I dozed off after the 2nd paragraph.
  • Unlike other investments that require a minimum to get your foot through the door, you can start investing using Robo-Advisors with a min of RM 100.
  • Live your life. You’ll spend absolutely no time at all in research and following financial news.

Robo-Advisor Cons

  • Depositing money takes time and takes about 5 business days before the robo-advisors receive it and start investing.
  • You can’t pick what to invest in or which specific company stock to buy.

Withdrawing My Money

This is critical. I need to have full flexibility to withdraw my money at any time, just in case of an emergency. Let’s check out if it’s even possible and how easy it would be to do so:

Withdrawing Money from Wahed Invest:

On Wahed Invest, I can withdraw all of my current value if I wanted to. Nice!

Withdrawing Money from StashAway:

I can also withdraw all of my funds from StashAway including the 17 cent profit that I made! Sweet!

Key Takeaway

I would like to highlight that these are my opinion on my own experience and account. Everyone’s result will be different.

I like the concept of app-based investments and transparency over traditional investments.

Both apps made more money than I put in at some point, and I can withdraw my profits. Both of these apps gained my trust.

I will continue to observe what will happen in the next month before deciding to place more money.

At the moment, it is a dead-tie between StashAway and Wahed Invest. For Muslims who are strict on their investments, Wahde invest is the way to go. I am still not 100% sure which one to choose.

In the future, If I don’t want any Malaysian assets, I’d put more money into StashAway.

If I don’t feel like money is too spread worldwide and want to focus on US stocks, I will deposit more money into Wahed Invest.

How You Can Start Too:

Whichever your choice, you can click on the link below to open an account. I do get a small kickback, and you’ll be getting something deposited into your account too:

With the link above, you will get a RM 10 bonus for signing up.

Code: MOHHAS198

You portfolio of up to RM 30,000 will be managed for free for 6 months.

To read my 8-month update, click here.

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    1. Thanks for the comments. So far, I’m happy with both wahed and stashaway.

      Will be putting more funds into them In the future 🙂

      1. Thank you for the great explanation . I am interested in investment too but have very minimal knowledge or time to monitor. Thinking of investing in Stashaway. Tq

  1. Thank you! I find this really helpful. I just open up account in Stashawat and Raiz! I want to know your opinion on Raiz too

  2. Hi Helmi,

    Thanks for the complete write-up! Would like to hear your review on Akru, the latest homegrown robo-advisor. 😀

  3. Thank you for this great insight on Stashaway. So far with Wahed, I have lost a bit but slowly going up now. I hope to get your review on Raiz soon. Thanks again!

    1. Hi Ereen,

      I also lost a bit of money with Wahed, but there were more times my portfolio is in the + on Wahed compared to StashAway. Review on Raiz is coming up!

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